>what's with probes anyway? Evidently a probe is more than just a wire >with a spike on the end? Why are they sometimes so expensive/ A probe has to have a number of contradicting features such as: 1 - high impedance 2 - low capacitance (conflicts with 4) 3 - low radiation/susceptance (good shield) (conflicts with 1 and 4) 4 - light and thin wire (conflicts with 2 and 3) 5 - no reflexions (i.e. enough losses to prevent pulse ringing even when totally lacking impedance matching at both ends) 6 - high bandwidth (conflicts 1,4,5) 7 - good insulation (500Vpk or more ac) 8 - durability As you can see it is not so simple. By the time you produce something like this that works for 1 year or more in a lab environment day by day use (probably more than 30000 uses and 60000 flexures) it tends to cost money. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body