On 31 Oct 2003, at 11:17, Hulatt, Jon wrote: > But, on my hobby budget, I can't afford to spend very much. I > could possibly stretch as far as #200, but i'd prefer not to go past #150. The > problem is, beyond the usage of scopes at college, I don't really know enough > about what i'm going to use it for to be able to spec out what I realistically > need. There have recently been some good bargains on Ebay (UK) e.g a 50MHz Solartron CD1740 went for #16.50 (dual beam with delayed timebase and 12kV PDA) - I know cos I have one upstairs. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2565455557&category =1504&rd=1 Others here (who are familiar with other makes) will probably recommend e.g Tektronix > I've seen that I can get a new Kenwood CS1010 for #160, but it's bandwidth > is 10MHz and it's single trace. Am I going to want more bandwidth than that for > PIC related work? Yes - You will need 2 beams for (probably) 50% of the jobs. In order to see fast edges (for looking at timing issues) a reasonable frequency response (40MHz+) and a good PDA voltage - otherwise the vertical edges are invisible. > Then there is the option of the elektor gameboy scope, or the PICO pc- based > scopes. These appeal less- i'd rather have a standalone unit. But are they going > to be suitable for my usage? Nope. Not in my opinion.... luck, George Smith -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.