There is an implied minimum operating voltage based on other specs like common mode range and output swing. If , as a recent post in this thread says: Output voltage swing depends on load but can be 3 to 5 volts less than supply in either direction worst case and 1 to 2 volts typical. Sounds like you were lucky :-) Then it is obvious that you will need significant supply voltage ( >10V!!) to get _any_ output swing in the worst case. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinx" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [EE:] How much headroom in an LM741? > > > I believe Vcc should be at least 6V for a 741. If that's the > > > case you'll be lucky to get it to behave properly at 5V > > > > That's what others are saying, but I can't seem to find a minimum > > supply voltage spec in either the national or fairchild datasheets. > > hmm.... > > hmm indeed. You're right. It's not in the NS pdf or in the Linear > Databook (my hard copy is ancient but I find it's exactly the same > as the pdf) > > But every op-amp comparison chart I've seen says that the 741 > is specced for +/-3 to +/- 18 (or sometimes +/- 22) > > This pdf (also NS but though the same as Russell or I have seen) > has a graph at the bottom showing Vcc +/- 2 V > > http://www.physics.wisc.edu/graduates/courses/623-f03/ds/LM741-opamp-new.pdf > > I still wouldn't use it at less than +/- 3. Plenty of modern 5V amps > around > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body