BTDT :) And with high impedance drive, such that hanging a scope probe on the signal line would trip the system. Then one gets into interesting things such as induction monitoring, super high-Z input probes and the like. Shielded cables with the shield being monitored for integrity via some nifty techniques have also been used as part of high security systems. Jack -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads