I also have the same problem, I bought a couple of 18F8720's and then tried tto make a prototype voard using Boardmaker, but the resolution is not good enough! I am thinking of creating a footprint 4X full size and getting it reduced photographically to make a dip header.I suppose it is really time to change my pcb program. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian McLean" To: Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: [EE]:SMD chip prototyping > Hello everyone, > > It has been some time since I have been on the PIC List, so g'day to > everyone. > > I would appreciate any bright ideas that anyone has for prototyping SMD > chips. I have been using, for example, the FT232BM USB chip from FTDI on my > latest PIC designs (with great success I may add, they work great !), but > boy are they fiddly to prototype with. > > My method has been to epoxy them right side up to a veroboard (actually I > don't use "veroboard" as such, but the boards with copper donuts on the > holes only and make my interconnections with Kynar and/or plain wire > traces). I then run thin Kynar wires stripped of their insulation to the > pins of the SMD chip and solder with a needle point and a magnifying glass. > I can then run the Kynar to appropriate spots on the veroboard for > interconnection. Whilst this works, and looks pretty neat, it is horribly > time consuming. > > I would like to proto chips like the PIC18F8720, but the thought of using > the method above on chips such as this scares the hell out of me. The FT > chip is only 0.8mm spacing, but I can see my method not working when getting > down to 0.5mm pin spacing. > > Does anyone make "header" boards for these chips, something like a solder > pad for the chip with tracks out to pads for prototyping, if you get my > drift ? I cannot find any such thing from local suppliers. I have however > found sources of ZIF sockets for some TQFP and SOIC chips, but they are > outlandishly expensive. I also remember a friend doing this with a HC16 > chip and they are not exactly "zero insertion force" anyway, he had to use a > vice to get the damned socket closed over the chip with no real guarantee > that all pins were making good electrical connection to the socket. > > Any ideas will be greatly appeciated. > > Rgs > Ian. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads