Hello everyone, It has been some time since I have been on the PIC List, so g'day to everyone. I would appreciate any bright ideas that anyone has for prototyping SMD chips. I have been using, for example, the FT232BM USB chip from FTDI on my latest PIC designs (with great success I may add, they work great !), but boy are they fiddly to prototype with. My method has been to epoxy them right side up to a veroboard (actually I don't use "veroboard" as such, but the boards with copper donuts on the holes only and make my interconnections with Kynar and/or plain wire traces). I then run thin Kynar wires stripped of their insulation to the pins of the SMD chip and solder with a needle point and a magnifying glass. I can then run the Kynar to appropriate spots on the veroboard for interconnection. Whilst this works, and looks pretty neat, it is horribly time consuming. I would like to proto chips like the PIC18F8720, but the thought of using the method above on chips such as this scares the hell out of me. The FT chip is only 0.8mm spacing, but I can see my method not working when getting down to 0.5mm pin spacing. Does anyone make "header" boards for these chips, something like a solder pad for the chip with tracks out to pads for prototyping, if you get my drift ? I cannot find any such thing from local suppliers. I have however found sources of ZIF sockets for some TQFP and SOIC chips, but they are outlandishly expensive. I also remember a friend doing this with a HC16 chip and they are not exactly "zero insertion force" anyway, he had to use a vice to get the damned socket closed over the chip with no real guarantee that all pins were making good electrical connection to the socket. Any ideas will be greatly appeciated. Rgs Ian. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads