I have sent out questions with all of the above. I just wanted to remind all new folks on the list to make sure when they send out questions to give good documentation and show the code. The only way anyone can give any advice is if they can see what the heck is going on. But for everyone who makes the mistakes mentioned above just take it as a learning experience, and give more info next time. Chuck Roberts -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body