Really, the page at: http://www.xensor.nl/frafiles/hfdfiles/fterms.htm says: " General terms Xensor Integration remains owner of design and ideas. " Mauricio Jancic Janso Desarrollos Microchip Consultant (54) - 11 - 4542 - 3519 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.