On Friday 26 Sep 2003 12:08 pm, you wrote: > I once wrote: > >> Most RS232 receiver buffers in a pc will accept 3.0V and above as mark > >> and anything below that as space > > > > I sincerely hope that this is not true because it means the receiver has > > zero hysteresis and zero noise margin. > > It is true because the receiver chips are made that way. I do not make > receiver chips, only use them. You will see in the spec sheets that the > hysteresis can be (and is) deleted or reduced. I think that they do this > to prevent edge ringing and cross-coupling from unmatched cheap serial > lines at high speed to cause glitches. Can you give me an example of such a device? > > >> (rs232 spec says -3.0V and below). So sending 0/5V is barely ok. > > > > So sending 0/5V is out of spec. > > Sending 0/5V is out of RS232 spec and within normally used RS232 receiver > chip specs, as used in a PC near you. Ok ? OK. Ian -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.