At 07:28 PM 9/24/2003 +0100, you wrote: >On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 6:11 pm, you wrote: > > Ian Bell wrote: > > > On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 4:17 pm, you wrote: > > > > How do they get away with this? > > > > > > > > They have an RS232 line going into a digital I/O port using just a > > > > couple of resistors. > > > > > > > > Also, the 7404 as a line driver. How much cable and speed is that good > > > > for? > > > > > > That's bloody criminal. Note they have two 7404s in parallel. > > > > > > Ian > > > > Still, do they actualy *say* it's a **RS232** interface ? > > I could not see that... > > The only RS232 reference I could find was a RS232 *connector" > > on the lab-board you can buy as an option. > > > > If they should be critizised for anything, it shold be > > that they do not *clearly* say that it's *not* a RS232 > > interface... > > > > What am I missing ? > > > >That elsewhwere they say it can be connected to a PC serial port (which IS >RS232) You can connect the 120 (or 240) VAC mains to a PC serial port, doesn't mean you'll be happy with the results. ;-) BTW, the triple inverter has 5V-tolerant inputs with ~7V protection zener on the inputs. Here's the actual data sheet: http://www.toshiba.com/taec/components/Datasheet/7WH04DS.pdf I'd consider this adequate for a programming interface on a desktop, but would not like to see it used for other purposes. They don't have a lot of room on that product for a "proper" interface, even using ceramic caps. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads