michael brown wrote: > > That's bloody criminal. Note they have two 7404s in parallel. > Although I do wonder why they didn't use the other three inverters, > maybe they're spares for when you kill the first three. ;-) If you'd cared to check the IC they are using (TC7WH04FU, http://www.sumisho.co.kr/product/search/search02.asp?vPproductNm=TC7WH04FU) you'd seen that it's a 8-pin, 3-inverter SOIC chip. And, again, they do *not* claim it's a RS232 interface ! They say it's a "serial interface", which is perfectly valid. What is the problem ? Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads