Ian Bell wrote: > On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 4:17 pm, you wrote: >> How do they get away with this? >> >> They have an RS232 line going into a digital I/O port using just a >> couple of resistors. >> >> Also, the 7404 as a line driver. How much cable and speed is that >> good for? >> > > That's bloody criminal. Note they have two 7404s in parallel. Naw, it's called 'letrical injunearing. Their circuit will work fine in probably >90% of the applications. I'm sure that HEX inverter costs allot less than a MAX232, plus it doesn't need four expensive electrolytic caps. It probably saves more than a US$1.00 per unit. Although I do wonder why they didn't use the other three inverters, maybe they're spares for when you kill the first three. ;-) michael brown -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads