The EE curriculum here has openings each semester for a "tech elective"
which is a 300 or above course in certain curriculum.  By taking two physics
courses as the tech electives, combined with the physics courses required
meets the requirements for the minor.  It's things like this that you need
to look for.  Where is the overlap?

Another example is at KSU there are areas of specialization.  A friend of
mine carefully examined these and again, by choosing tech electives
carefully you can specialize in both digital systems and integrated
circuits.  There is a lot of overlap here... so it's a matter of two
courses.

An additional warning, while most universities advertise EE as a 4 year
program, don't delude yourself it's 5 year program.  It's a political thing.
The Department Head realizes it can't really be done in 4 years, but the
board of regents says they'll make it a 4 year program so they come up with
a schedule that meets the 4 year time frame, but it's darn near impossible
to do.  Especially if you want to get a 3.0 or better (important if you are
looking for an internship).

Don't flame me about the importance of the GPA, I thinks its hog wash,
especially given the other advice on this thread about "homework".  (I'm
going to try some of these BTW)  But, here at the career fair while
searching for internships and co-ops it's a 3.0 or better or nothing at all.
I think it's truly ridiculous.  They won't chase you off, but you'll get
"keep trying" or "come back next semester" and your conversation will be
much shorter than those with the 3.0+.

Garmin (GPS company) told an interviewee flat out they weren't interested
because of his GPA even though the rest looked great.  They look for a 3.5,
but 3.0 is their minimum.  Ouch!  That's stupid!  So watch your grades!

Keith L. Kovala
klk@ksu.edu
klk@renderedelement.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Herbert Graf
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:57 AM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [OT]: CE or EE?
>
>
> > As an EE at Kansas State University, the first two years of
> CE and EE
> > are the same, course for course.  However, after that the CE's take
> > several (3 I
> > think) more programming classes while the EEs take things
> like power
> > systems and energy conversion.
> >
> > For the sounds of it, I said you sound more like someone
> that would be
> > an EE.  But as previously posted, the institution providing both is
> > your best bet in case your choice changes over time.  I
> have heard of
> > many CEs moving over to EE, but very few EEs over to CE.  I
> think it's
> > more of just how much
> > you love to code.
> >
> > Just a bit of further advice on persuing a EE or CE degree.
>  Check out
> > a minor in Physics as well.  Many job postings for Engineers will
> > include physics majors as well, so why not make yourself more
> > appealing by adding a few classes in Physics to get the minor?
>
>         In the few engineering programs I've seen this is
> almost impossible. Why? Because the first 3 years are set in
> stone, with full course load. The fourth year isn't set in
> stone, however it is still full course load. I couldn't
> imagine taking another course on top of the ones you already
> have to take. Unless you're talking about taking these
> courses AFTER you've done your engineering? TTYL
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