I've been using the 16F819 for a small project for a few weeks, and have had no real problems with the chip itself. It was a bit difficult to get the ICSP working, but I'm thinking that's more of a problem with the WARP-13a programmer I was using than anything else. Mike H. >From: Russell McMahon >Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list >To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >Subject: [PIC]: 16F819 quality >Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:51:17 +1200 > >To PICLIST: > >Quality, while unusual in this context, seemed like the word I wanted :-) > >SUMMARY: Has the 16F819 got any problems that would make > me think about not using it in a moderate volume > production application. ? > > Comments sought from people who have used it. > >DETAIL: > >I'm about to design the next generation of a product. >Present product uses a non-PIC non-Flash processor. >I have several non-PIC candidate processors. >New processor will ideally be: > >Bulletproof >Flash plus eerom parameter storage. >ISP >Hardware PWM (essential) >A/D - preferably 10 bit >Around 16 I/O >1K / 2K word versions preferable. >On board power on Reset and anti-Brownout that work >Available readily in Taiwan . >Reasonably priced basic development tools (basic programmer / simulator >probably adequate. ICE OK if cheap (as some are)) > >Low voltage operation a plus. >UART nice but not essential. > >______________ > >Bullet proof translates to: > > Provided ALL data sheet operating specifications are met > then NO unexpected operation modes, inexplicable crashes, > weird startup modes or other bad surprises. > >I have had too much of the above already from xxx's product. > >I can tolerate known "features" which are well described and which can be >worked around (although these are better absent). > >The 16F818 / 16F819 seems to meet my spec. >Notably 1K/2K Flash versions, hardware PWM, 10 bit A/D, ISP > >So - has anyone got good or bad things to say about this particular PIC. >Any surprises. >Anyone used it in volume. >Brownout works OK in presence of Tesla coils and lightning ? :-) >Hand connect the battery and it starts every time? >etc > > Russell McMahon > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList >mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu _________________________________________________________________ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu