> >Thanks for the information, I will be looking into that. I'm thoroughly >convinced that my plan "can" work, now whether I can make it work, we'll >have to see. ;-) When ringing, I'm sure that I can pick up some "free" >power there and not upset the phone company too much. I have a >transparent phone that has a mechanical bell and a bunch of neon type >bulbs that flash when it rings, IMO that's a bunch of power available >that could be put to better use. do both. take all the power you legally can in the on hook state, and take near the max allowable current when ringing. the ring voltage is 90vac superimposed on the line voltage, which can be as low as 12v. in the spec, you'll find a limit for max current in the ringing state, when you are on hook. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body