DISCLAIMER: I fully understand that the concepts that I am presenting are not well aligned with the "rules". I only wish to do this as an experiment in the interest of learning a few things, not to try and mass produce an unsafe telco device. Art wrote: > I can't offer any additional comments regarding the actual quan of > elections you can capture:>: > > But, Maxim has a ready to go power supply that is designed > specifically for this purpose and there is lots of tech-talk in the > Ap Note regarding the phone lines. Thanks for the information, I will be looking into that. I'm thoroughly convinced that my plan "can" work, now whether I can make it work, we'll have to see. ;-) When ringing, I'm sure that I can pick up some "free" power there and not upset the phone company too much. I have a transparent phone that has a mechanical bell and a bunch of neon type bulbs that flash when it rings, IMO that's a bunch of power available that could be put to better use. I'm thinking that a slow drain (a few tens of uA's) from the line will give me enough power to have the pic sleeping and all other circuitry powered down while waiting for a ring. With a dc blocked transformer over the line, I should be able to rectify and capture enough of the ringing signal to provide plenty of booster power to bring up the caller-id chip and an LCD display for at least a minute. michael (phreakin' ;-) -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body