Spehro Pefhany wrote 01:22 2003-09-17 enligt nedan: >>The main culprit is: is it really a standard type thyristor? > > >FWIW, it's listed as an obsolete "rectifier diode" in Toshiba's Japanese >language web pages, as you can see quite clearly here: > >http://www.semicon.toshiba.co.jp/prd/common/discab/discab_list_05_3-7.html I found that page, but tell me, how can you tell it is a rectifier? Do you know japaneese? I did find this document, listing it amongst diodes http://www.semicon.toshiba.co.jp/prd/diode/doc/db11_doc/11356D1AE/pdf/10.pdf I still did not react as i thought "controlled rectifier"... >>The pin names make me a little scared: K1, A, K2 >>That make it look like a double diode, but "K2" is a smaller pin and go to >>what looks like a trig section on the PCB... so it must be some transistor >>cousin... > >Maybe just two connections to the cathode, and anode. In which case, it's >okay. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! You are probably right. The wire from the extra cathode seem not to go to a= trigger output but to somewhere close. I thought it was burnt short between K1 and K2. **&%$#!=BD=A7=A7!! Now i spent most of yesterday searching and ordered two expensive spare= parts for no use and I probably still havn=B4t found the problem! Shit. A recieved spare part from FANUC has the same short, and identical exterior,= except it is marked Hitachi DSM20A6 (which of course is not to be found on= Hitachi semiconductor site...). And this pins are marked T1, T2, G, with= the short between G and T1. Definitely wrong marking, but tested= electrically the same. Now i have analyzed the design as far as i can tell it most probably IS a= plain simple vanilla rectifier diode. Doh! Power cirquit analysis:=20 There is an input 3phase rectifier feeding a semi large cap, and this diode= feeds from there to a large cap, which feeds the motor H-bridge. When= there is a pushing load on the motor the H-bridge charges the large cap,= and i think the diode is there to protect the input bridge rectifier from= too high voltage. (but why did they not use a better bridge??) And if too= high voltage over the large cap there is a power NPN and huge wire wound R= to take the breaking power. Most of the control electronics is cast in custom hybrid modules :( Error:=20 It outputs sqarewave to the motor, and on every other "forward" half cycle= there is a double voltage spike. This in a condition where the motor= should sit still. I stil have not figured out how i can get such weird= output voltage. There is no error indication from the onboard error LEDs,= "only" indication is a burnt motor... Now first i must find a way to make sure it is not the controlling device= that sends wrong control signals... Must set up the unit to run in my lab. Somebody have a schematic on FANUC A06B-6047-H002 DC PWM Drive with brake,= single axis, tachofeedback driver unit? A new from FANUC cost about 3000US and have delivery time. I have found FANUC repair sites on the net and found it for half that, which= is still plenty if it really is no problem in this unit but elswhere. I found Schematic unavailable, Manual =A380. Begin to set it up for test... /Morgan -- Morgan Olsson, Kivik, Sweden -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body