Hello, I've noticed that a lot of the "case modder" types are using the +5 and +12 volts from their computer switching power supplies as 7 volts (12 to 5) to drive their 12 volt fans at lower than normal speeds. A question came up in a conversation on IRC the other day, about the safety of this practice. I located a schematic of a "typical" ATX power supply here: http://www.acs.comcen.com.au/atxps.html It appears there are diodes in series with the outputs, so as far as I can tell, the current must be flowing through other loads on the +5 rail, and thus this technique is dependant on having a (heavily) loaded +5 rail to prevent pushing the +5 out of regulation. Is this hypothesis correct? Are there potentially bad effects even if the +5 rail is heavily loaded? -Jason -- www.electronicschat.org -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.