On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:01:19 +0100, Hulatt, Jon wrote: > I've always found US plugs to be rather flimsy too, when compared to their > european counterparts. Indeed, and they tend to fall out of the socket if there's too heavy a cable / wall-wart attached. Or they can half fall out, leaving live pins exposed - amazing! Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.