--=====================_17054302==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mike Singer wrote 03-09-11: >Jan-Erik Soderholm XA wrote: >> I'v cut out that picture and attached it. I hope it gets throught... > >The same picture but 1.8K instead of 18K :-) How clumsy! ;) Why not use png? http://www.libpng.org/ Attached 1.1K png exact copy of your tif, converted by http://www.irfanview.com/ Interesting discussion all - thanks! Another way of somewhat balancing is to use NRZ and allow to send X number of consecutive hi or low, and whwen X is reached the sender inserts a dummy bit of opposite polarity. As also the reciever is aware and counts to X it now expects the dummy bit and ignores it. This give high bitrate and enough "balance" for most applications. IIRC, CAN does this on the physical level, with X=5. /Morgan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. --=====================_17054302==_ Content-Type: image/png; name="manch.png" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="manch.png" iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAWwAAADIAQMAAAD2q0m2AAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAACXBI WXMAAAsTAAALEwEAmpwYAAAEKklEQVR4nO3Zz0vbUBwA8IqTeBDidnLgqIeql4FiYRXmjOB1KOy4 k4fBEMYYeJCBP3rSo4PB2Jiz/4I3T2OtHoo4eDAv87Alo5uPwViiPaRu6ts3Ly9pmqbpe7VqK3vl ax7yafj2m773TTRCRIYR+c/Pg5ueeYodFUJOF4N5BgJDIAjJfstxFMJ5i4/vQWQhViAeQ1gU3noE bysE8FXGZTjbDATwkyrcyl+3OVGBAv+rBiVjAsfwEwPXgevAEXDEz3XKUwQF8XcePmufHXJHRxX4 dpGTfvvsxymXq36e8/AVm0N1ENQ9gIcNROt0XpyUc+sCYRa6J1BtvKyQlTkS5wLJhHCTj4eN+tTd n8iVrPuf+Q34qUXsIbG5zGga5t2n60VeGFYqcMJ4+/BgUDLWyJLi9kfCcyeez8DBsY9zVCaMv8+k FwX4SHJMhHevzYnwjrU5J3+eytxOPhfhsWTeW5lqfPA1Fink4KouwofXhAo5koqIcDZq5KaPq8Gc t+5saGwVeedptrpkP19uTTKiV+BpLfDsmBTXqcOjVDTqtiTMw8bZ24EgD8q9WERrnGfdL/QyhY1L 6drNe7dk0BWqQeh0HoWjRn9jzUt4YTjBFrcGobPFrcPilukCl8nn0jZMPNzeA+yjw8uSsTPH9Jhl gejLOgZw56UDtUOIo9rOjhx+kKOVVsLPXis3ch3dPQebXTm+ZIzNa+2RR5mhcfcrEFRIlx9++r69 NCEn5NC6qy7fbdvZHxvvCeduIQ9vxHb2Jw/6Ed9lyg/92F66/yYu833U/FDbx76pTOckHxe8qjVz f9119hFDzl71MjljWUqyO1+ppAnLdD3Rub8NS3Beg3HZXa8Olxt6W6qJEz4eNurXDoKeKEN4M9f9 4ru2KsZJOa9j3VUxXuUyYR8tq4zVhp19QHI7LNsD6AJv97dhP0+X8MCdwHlZ86wnmYBd7PK5Nqsl BPi+si/C8QZ+cZBb4eYJvD6VkQRyj098iXPnfqdn9tlmK3cyr/rNKUMR+KgmtGHu3BPYHMtwJ2OY xJzBqDG+MyEcVeZWG464a8lpyGn3MVcufRoO4nIJz2jNsS01dDuoX9duzoe4yg/+DXWZSHAyzv+z vMmolXmD1P1kcaqFPuBGabTSuZKGY1qivVX5Ol/yN+yech6lvNXmvodn84geUtiKPE0qmoUjytFk FH9lynkKWTxfL46rcWMRk2M8oCp8XFMo3+PkOIXnjrdG9wb4uPky1rWw9eS6xMfz8d7d0QfTb+N8 lTHiscHRh9N7nBzn+zoXun7ycjPfu/vB5dUrY8Q6lZFfNzm5WXg6Qu79vnWXjwt+Cc7Eub+RaHm5 QJ+BkzQMey7DkQYhkZZvJW3Yz2Ufj4i14cbdlpqoa6tinJTzi79b8vbVS71b0j3zK3a3VC13Ac6S +Qek8yIUXWuXugAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== --=====================_17054302==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -- Morgan Olsson, Kivik, Sweden -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. --=====================_17054302==_--