> Please share your experience .. Matte black acrylic and strips of adhesive aluminium foil have worked for me. I arrived at this combination using a VCR remote and a camcorder. As a camcorder is responsive to IR it's quite clear in the viewfinder what reflects and what doesn't. I also found that closer wasn't always better. Some optos have a sweet spot. A comparator may be useful to sharpen the distinction, especially if the bands are narrow and/or the rotation is fast > computer drawn wotzit ( can't think of its name ) stuck on the head. Please try ;-) So if some sort of printed thing is already stuck on the inside........ in other words, what's it there for therefore ? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics