> For a somewhat different approach, check out > http://www.newscanner.com/frame.htm and click on the EyeBall link (their > stupid frames setup means I can't just provide the direct URL). A trick which often works to obtain the frame page's actual address is to - right click on the frame concerned - select "properties" and - cut and paste the ACTUAL address shown. May not be infallible but it usually works. Russell McMahon -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads