On looking at past postings I see that Roman Black doesn't seem to have posted on PICLIst since January !!! Time to send out a posse methinks! Summary: The Electronics Australia ESR meter (kitset) as enthusiastically recommended by Roman Black is utterly brilliant at locating old dry electrolytic capacitors in circuit. It also has many other uses. Buy one! (I consider mine has about paid for itself after one use). "K7204 EA 1/96 ESR & Low Ohms Meter" _____________________ This post is to recommend an instrument that Roman recommended. It's an in circuit ESR & low ohms tester available in kitset form & based on an Electronics Australia article. While its specialist purpose is to perform Equivalent series Resistance tests on electrolytic capacitors in-circuit, it can also be used as a general purpose low ohms tester. Preamble: Electrolytic capacitors have a common failure mode caused by loss of electrolyte. This can occur with age or earlier on if run at a high temperature. The result is an increase in the effective resistance for AC signals. The capacitor can lose its effective filtering capability while still retaining its capacitance (as measured on a capacitance tester) and still having low leakage. Without an ESR meter such failures are essentially undetectable. Such failures are common in electronic equipment and indeed may be the major cause of failures. We have an oldish and very heavy 29" AWA brand television. Over time it slowly ceases turning on reliably via remote control and after enough time it won't turn on at all by any means. On a previous occasion I searched for the problem to no avail and finally summoned up enough muscle and will power to lug it to the local TV repairer. They (presumably having inside knowledge) replaced several small capacitors and it again worked OK. The problem returned some years later and as there was another unrelated fault I again sent it to the repairers. This time the fix was partial and the problem returned rapidly. Lack of the TV's circuits, general inexperience with TV circuitry and best use of time was weighed against , decreasing muscle power and increasing annoyance at paying repairers for a poor job - I decided to take up Roman Black's highly recommended solution of the EA ESR meter. Construction would take a long evening in front of the TV (where else? :-) ). Note that this is an *** ESR meter *** and NOT just a low ohms meter. It uses AC measurement techniques and uses a low enough signal to allow in circuit testing. Using the meter to look in the general area where I expected the fault to lie produced success with the second capacitor tested. It had a very very high ESR reading compared to the values provided with the meter (on it's front panel). One replacement 100 uF 25V cap and the TV appears to be back to full working order. I could have found the fault with a scorched-earth capacitor replacement policy. Replacing caps on a tight TV PCB is at best annoying, requires a range of suitable caps to hand, may cause extra problems and takes time. And it may have been something else. This meter allows intelligent replacement. Given the repeated occurrences of this fault, it appears this capacitor is over stressed for its role - mechanical aspects resulted in my replacing it with one of identical rating but if it happens again before the TV expires I'll use a better rated part. The meter is a microprocessor (Z8) driven autoranging device measuring from 0.01R to 99R. It will measure resistances of eg PCB tracks & wire shunts and should prove invaluable for locating the physical location of PCB shorts. Highly recommended. _____________ ESR meter's own page http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/esrmeter.htm The creator's project page http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/index.html US: Another writeup & pictures here http://www.flippers.com/esrktmtr.html $U49.95 from here http://www.flippers.com/esrktord-form.html Canada http://www.mainelectronics.com/esrkit.htm -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body