Jinx, I have many suppliers and of course many kind of materials that weight differently. but I know that all of it are 50m reels. so I have to stick to the length method. as I say before a rubber pinch roller encoder will do the job. now I have to find a pic counter to translate it to digits and readable data. Tal -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Jinx Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:35 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: Length measurement > we are talking about 100" (2.6m) that fed with vynil,paper. etc.. > there is no mechanism to find how much material left so I must > build it. > > Tal If your supplier can say that there is at least a certain amount of paper on a new roll, then do they use an odometer system too ? Or maybe, assuming that the paper thickness is known at the time of winding (being under factory conditions where temperature, humidity etc are controlled), they simply measure turns or weight -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.