--On Wednesday, 10 September 2003 6:01 PM +1000 Jim Robertson <"jim Pl"@NEWFOUNDELECTRONICS.COM> wrote: > source= http://www.piclist.com/piclist/2003/09/09/232055a.txt? > > >> Jim, >> >> Are the times that you report measured using a real serial port or a >> USB/Serial adapter ? > > A real serial port. It is my strong belief that if you used a USB-RS232 > bridge the programming > times will increase a little due to the overhead involved. > > >> A coworker of mine has a real serial port in his computer and has almost >> no problem running any programmer (though some of them are slow). > > You mean the picstart plus. ;-) > >> On my >> computer I don't have a serial port and have had very bad experience >> with several USB/Serial adapter and serial programmer. > > > These things simply cannot reproduce the same timings as a real RS232 > port. They will always > be hit and miss. > > >> I was impressed by the speedy and 'out of the box' operation of the kit >> 149 and the stability of the USB/Serial driver it uses. Possibly because >> that driver is certified by Microsoft for XP (most of them are not). >> >> Having a 3 sec programmer though will be greatly appreciated here ;-) >> > > Actually, I asked around and the 3 seconds of the ICD2 turns out to be > 9.5 seconds when > you get it to do everything the DIY programmer does. No faster than my > fastest RS232 > firmware. Sorry I got that so wrong. > > However, the DIY programmers do do some really silly things like blank > checking a flash > part with no option to turn this off... Hmm even in the case of being accused of being pedantic this will detect bad bits which may or may not be detected at program time. > > Regards, > > Jim > >> Tal > > > > --- > > http://www.piclist.com/member/newfound-pipeline- > PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics