Phew, I was trying to work out how it could go wrong cos mine works just fine :-) jon --On Wednesday, 10 September 2003 11:18 AM -0700 Tal wrote: > Hi John, > > It works now. This was my fault. > > I have two AC adapters on my desk and apparently, after I made the > patch, I plugged the 14VAC instead of the 16VDC. After I removed the > patch, I plugged in the right one. The condition is reproducible if I > use the wrong adapter. > > Just another reason to get rid of those AC/DC adapter and use the USB > power instead. ;-) > > Tal > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tal [mailto:tal@zapta.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:21 PM >> To: 'pic microcontroller discussion list' >> Subject: RE: [PIC]: Kit 149B USB Programmer - first impression >> >> >> Hi John, >> >> I tried to apply the three resistor patch but when tried to >> program an 16F876A got an error the programmer did not >> reconigzed the chip. The problem disapeared when I removed the patch. >> >> I upgraded the programmer firmware and now I get Help|Build >> B009/B009. Is this is what you are using ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tal >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: pic microcontroller discussion list >> > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Jon Jenkins >> > Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:40 PM >> > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU >> > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Kit 149B USB Programmer - first impression >> > >> > >> > Hi Tal >> > >> > I have this programmer and agree with what >> > you said. >> > >> > I got the enclosed email and piccy from >> > Tony Nixon who designed the board/fw: >> > >> > It requires the addition of 3 3K3 >> > resistors which can be soldered >> > underneath the PCB. >> > >> > When the PCB is pulled into a reset >> > state by the PC, (all) VPP and VCC >> > voltages appear on the ZIF socket. >> > >> > The resistors make sure the voltage >> > control gates are pulled low during >> > the reset phase. >> > >> > Please remove the PIC16F628 while >> > making the mod. See Attached GIF >> > file. >> > >> > Did you get the latest PC version which is >> > diypack10. Remember you have to bootstrap >> > yourself first: use the older version to >> > program a new 628 with the new (v10 firmware) >> > and then change the firware and PC sw together. >> > >> > I would also like it to integrate with MPLAB >> > and auto checksums and ... and .... but all >> > in all it is preety good value :-) >> > >> > jon >> > >> > --On Friday, September 05, 2003 9:32 PM -0700 Tal >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Just finished to build and installed Kit149B USB/Serial >> programmer. >> > > Got it at >> > http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/prog/ck1708.htm >> > > for 30 USD + 20 USD for ZIF socket and power supply from Jameco. >> > > >> > > I was very impressed with the quality of the kit >> hardware. Building >> > > the kit was straight forward. The quality of the PCB is >> > excellent and >> > > all the components fit with no problem. The programmer has >> > two modes, >> > > serial and USB. Just for curiosity, I tried the serial mode >> > using one >> > > of the USB/Serial adapter that I have but like few other >> > programmer I >> > > tried before (Warp13, PicStart), it failed to work. This is >> > consistent >> > > with many problems I had trying to use a serial programmer using >> > > USB/Serial adapter. >> > > >> > > However, when I installed the USB driver from ftdichip.com and >> > > switched to the USB mode, the magic starts. This beast can >> > > erase/program/verify a 8K 16F876A in less 15 secs. Much >> faster than >> > > other serial ports I used (e.g. Warp13) or even parallel >> > programmers >> > > (e.g. P16PRO). This quick programming is definitely a time >> > saver when >> > > performing the traditional edit/compile/program/debug cycles. >> > > >> > > My main complain is the software the came with it. Overall the >> > > software is easy to use but it still seems like a bare >> bone version >> > > 1.0. Basic options are not supported, it does not show the >> > hex value >> > > of the configuration bits (very basic), some preference >> > settings are >> > > not saved from session to session, configuration bits are >> > sets by text >> > > values rather than checkboxes and radio buttons and the sofware >> > > sometimes hang when the board is disconnected. >> > > >> > > Overall this is a very promising product. The hardware is >> excellent >> > > and hopefully the software will catch up. Very recommended >> > if you are >> > > looking for a speedy programmer. Take also look at kit 128 >> > (self power >> > > from USB, no ICSP) or KIT150 (reduced version of 149). >> > > >> > > Tal >> > > >> > > -- >> > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three >> > different >> > > ways. 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