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>Jim,
>
>Are the times that you report measured using a real serial port or a
>USB/Serial adapter ?

A real serial port. It is my strong belief that if you used a USB-RS232
bridge the programming
times will increase a little due to the overhead involved.


>A coworker of mine has a real serial port in his computer and has almost
>no problem running any programmer (though some of them are slow).

You mean the picstart plus. ;-)

>On my
>computer I don't have a serial port and have had very bad experience
>with several USB/Serial adapter and serial programmer.


These things simply cannot reproduce the same timings as a real RS232 port.
They will always
be hit and miss.


>I was impressed by the speedy and 'out of the box' operation of the kit
>149 and the stability of the USB/Serial driver it uses. Possibly because
>that driver is certified by Microsoft for XP (most of them are not).
>
>Having a 3 sec programmer though will be greatly appreciated here ;-)
>

Actually,  I asked around and the 3 seconds of the ICD2 turns out to be 9.5
seconds when
you get it to do everything the DIY programmer does.  No faster than my
fastest RS232
firmware. Sorry I got that so wrong.

However, the DIY programmers do do some really silly things like blank
checking a flash
part with no option to turn this off...

Regards,

Jim

>Tal



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