My first post, greetings to all (I'm currently fudging together a programmer to actually use these 12f's I've had lying around for a bit) At one point, I was so sure that Vss was positive voltage (source sounds like the power source to me, had me all around backwards) I actually had a professor convinced that he was wrong for a minute too, until it came to us both a couple minuets later that I was just being dumb :) -Jesse > > >David VanHorn wrote: > >> d for drain, c for collector. > >> > >> s for source, e for emitter. > >> > >> so vcc and vdd are both positive, and vdd and vee are both ground. > > > >Umm....typo...I'm guessing you meant Vss and Vee are both ground? > > well, only if you /want/ current flow.. vbg -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics