Yes, dryers suk, no doubt about it. But, a PIC based controller for the Energy Kinetics System 2000 oil burners would be a big moneymaker. They get $350 dollars for a replacement computer and I'm sure it's not much of a computer:>: Smile, it can always be worse. Art -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.