Why not use a couple of transistors for the level translation/inversion? Or just drive the PIC pins directly with series R (1k on Rx, 100R on Tx) and invert the logic if you're bit banging? It is a PIC isn't it ? If it isn't, you're going to need clamp diodes to VCC and Gnd for the Rx line. And if you are going to use a SMT logic device, I recommend the 74HC14 (Schmidt). I use it all the time in our lab on 50' cables at 19.2kbaud without problems. The official Rx spec for RS232 says anything about 3V is a Mark and lower than -3V is a space, and -3 to 3 is undefined (so 0V is ok). In other words, you get a minimum of 2V of noise margin using a 74HC14 driving a 'normal' RS232 chip like the 1489. John Pearson wrote: > > Is a 7404 or equivalent available in an 8 pin dip? Or perhaps is there a way to mount a SMD 7404 onto an 8 pin DIP adaptor, or a SIP adaptor? > > What I want to do is to try to use an rs232 serial connection with a 5Volt mpu using a very short cable and low speed (9600 max). > Thanks -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body