I've been using a PicStart Plus for a loooong time now (~ 4-5 years) without any problems whatsoever. I've primarily used PIC16F873 devices, and a few low-end parts as well. Recently, I've been doing a project with the '877 (NOT the '877A). Often, when I make a minor code change and go to reprogram the part, I'll get some (maybe 3 or 4, maybe *lots*) verification errors. If I cycle power on the programmer and retry the sequence, all is *usually* OK -- but sometimes I need to retry several times before Success. This phenomenon seems to be occuring with increasing regularity. So, I looked in the PICSTART Help, and found a statement about PIC16F87x devices being shipped with Low-Voltage Programming mode enabled by default; note that the PICStart uses the "High-Voltage" scenario. They suggest a 10K resistor between RB3/PGM and Gnd on the ZIF socket while programming. I've done this a couple of times, and got Success 1st try. But I'm bothered by the fact that I went on for such a long time without ever seeing any problems with '873s or '877s! Has anyone had relevant experience with this? I'd think that, once a particular device has been programmed *once* with "low-voltage mode" disabled in the config bits, it should be re-programmable without a hitch. Thanks for any ideas! Jim > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body