1. I am subscribed to piclist digests and I have never, ever seen ONE virus transit the listserv. Therefore any virus you ever saw 'from the piclist' was actually sent with a faked header, and was NOT from the piclist. James can confirm this easily, since he is archiving the list. 2. If Olin says he sees 4-5 a week it makes me wonder what his wonderful system makes of the remaining 5-6 a DAY that should be going through it (based on what others and I see). It would be too good to hope that his wonderful system just deletes them silently. good luck Olin, Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads