source= http://www.piclist.com/piclist/2003/08/24/200553a.txt? Peter says: "Bringing it to the attention of 2000 people; childish and arrogant." I tend to agree there, but that isn't as critical as makeing darn sure that people do not post tripe like that on the [PIC:] topic. As long as its untagged or [OT:], it is easy for people to filter out and if not tagged, we don't even take a bandwidth hit if enough people turn off the un-tagged channel: You can turn off the Other: channel by sending SET PICLIST TOPICS: -Other to LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU or click on: mailto:LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU?body=SET%20PICLIST%20TOPICS:%20-other http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist/listfaq.htm#topics Anyway, the point of the channels is that A) there are always people who can't keep their mouths shut (me too sometimes) and B) there are other people who can't spend the time required to filter out the crap. If you loose them, the list becomes worthless. We have to make sure NO crap ends up on the [PIC:] channel. We got Scott back, and Wouter and Wagner, but Tjaart and John Payson have never returned. And Roman has fallen silent. Olin Lathrop, PicDude, Peter L. Peres, Jinx, Wouter van Ooijen, Alan B. Pearce, Spehro Pefhany, Russell McMahon, Herbert Graf, and William Chops Westfield, Bob Ammerman, Dave VanHorn answer the questions today. Scott Dattalo helps out with really complex math, Harold M Hallikainen on RF and lighting, and so on with other specialists. These people ALL make a living doing this. They are GOOD AT IT. We NEED them, they do NOT need us. The fact that they are willing to spend time answering our questions is always amazing to me. I am forever grateful. They make the list. --- James Newton: PICList.com webmaster, former Admin #3 mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com 1-619-652-0593 phone http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads