Okay, you used the word "clean" with respect to automotive power, so you'= ll=20 have to allow me a half hour to get over my laughter :-) Seriously though, most everything I do with PICs is in automobiles, and t= ake=20 my word for it, that the ~12V in a vehicle is one of the worst environmen= ts=20 from an electrical/power standpoint. There are so many generators of=20 significant electrical noise, that you're committing circuit suicide if y= ou=20 don't protect the circuit. First, 11V to 14V is fairly common, but I like to conservatively assume i= t's=20 10V to 15V. Then, there are positive surges and spikes, negative spikes,= and=20 tons of noise. So at the bare minimum, use a forward-biased rectifier di= ode=20 to protect against reverse current, add a TVS or zener to protect against= =20 positive spikes, filter that, then regulate the usual way. That's if it'= s a=20 PIC or similar circuit. If you need a solid clean 12V for a stereo (I ca= n't=20 figure out if you mean that the power that is usually supplied to the ste= rep,=20 or if you intend to use if for a stereo), then you'll need a DC-DC conver= ter=20 (flyback, sepic, etc), but I'm not sure if this is your intention. Cheers, -Neil. On Friday 22 August 2003 20:36, NaB25J@AOL.COM scribbled: > Hey, everyone > > How clean of a source is the 12v stereo power supplied by a car? I've > noticed it can vary from (in my car) 11.5v off the battery to almost 14= v > when the engine is running. I'm thinking that it's not a very well > regulated source. So how likely is it that spikes and noise can make th= eir > way into the circuit being powered? The vehicle in question is a 1991 G= eo > Prizm (basically a Toyota Corolla of the same era). > > I ask because I'm not sure what kind of protection might be needed in a > circuit to be powered by such a source. If it's a significant problem, = what > can be done about it? > > > Thanks, and happy Friday > > -Tony -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.