As a hobbiest user of PICs I've "standardized" my boards with a 10 pin shrouded right angle connector. The pins are on .100" centers and the shroud provides keying if I pay moderate attention (the mating connector can be forced on upside down with very little energy). The mating plug end is IDC and the connectors are more or less readily available at my local elec. shops. 6 pin connectors are hard to find surplus. For a commercial product I would probably chose some 2mm spacing smt part from HIROSE or someone else to minimize the footprint. I started with a 9 pin d-shell I/F (it accomodates all of Wouters Wisp628 signals) and its robust and definitely keyed but its not .100" centered and is a little bulky, but I/F cables were liberated from old xt motherboard machines rs232 cable conn. My conclusion as to why Wouter chose a 15 pin d-shell (aside from its spare game port cable roots) is because he could route all 8 of his signals on one side of his PCB without using a more expensive right angle DB-15, which was clever but an overkill in my opinion. Besides its tough to emulate on a point-to-point wired circuit... dave. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu