I'm still trying to learn this. I have had my PICall programmer for a year now and still have not tried to program a thing. Just watching this list and trying to pick up things. I just have not taken the leap yet. I like to know what I'm doing before I do it. It would be nice if there was a program that would ask question and you just plugged in the answer. What is the Osc. Freq? Than you plug in Freq. How many inputs? You plug that in. How many outputs? You plug that in. So forth and so forth. I'm a Tech I just see things differently I guess. Still trying though. Larry Taylor KF6JBG -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.