Personally, I use MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, Weatherbug and Memturbo
(you've seen the advertisements). I don't doubt these are leaving my
computer vulnerable to hacking, virii, etc., but I figure it's all a matter
of probability. I back up all my critical stuff about weekly, and plan on
formatting my HD to keep system performance up about yearly or biennially. I
enjoy the benefits of these various programs, and I don't really care what
they do to my computer. I realize that this point of view is completely
impractical for someone who has critical or sensitive data on their
computer, or who uses their computer for a business, but for me as a home
user, I don't give a darn.
BTW, I'm thinking about getting another computer to use as a "secure" work
machine. Linux, more careful maintenance, and more cautious use. I'll still
have this one for email and less critical stuff, but use the other one for
programming and profitable stuff.

- Robert



----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith L. Kovala" <klk@KSU.EDU>
To: <PICLIST@mitvma.mit.edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [PICLIST] [OT:] Worm


> Alexandre,
>
> You've been added to my list of IP addresses to check out in my spare
time.
> GRiN  Just kidding, I don't have any spare time to mess with your
computer.
> But if you think your computer is so clean why don't you run Ad-Aware and
> see how much junk Kazaa is bringing in.  While they may not be viruses in
> the sense that an AV program considers them, I'll bet a high count on
hooks
> into your registry.  In fact I'd be willing to bet Gator is on your
computer
> and you don't even know it, it loves to come in through Kazaa!
>
> http://lavasoft.element5.com/support/download/
>
> Keith L. Kovala
> klk@ksu.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]
On
> Behalf Of Alexandre Souza
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:43 AM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [OT:] Worm
>
>
> > I disagree. The small network administration becomes a big pain. The
> > users don't realize that Real Player, Lotteries, Auctions, Kazaa;
> > Messenger,
> ICQ,
> > URLs, etc destroy every single defense you put to protect the
> > Intranet.
> The
> > most efficient antiviral I found is a slow chat with the user, telling
> > her/him: "the next thing you install with out my authorization, you
> > are FIRED!",..."The next forbidden URL you *see*, with out consulting
> > me, you are FIRED",... it works. (Although, I don't have such
> > authority :))
>
>     I think it is just plain stupid.
>
>     I use Kazaa, ICQ, mail (yep, outlook express!!!) and web, and NEVER
EVER
> had a single ocurrence of virus or something like this on my machine.
> Nothing like a good antivirus (AVG) and good config of the Outlook. Of
> course, a good firewall to block effects of lotteries, date manager,
> temperature-dunno-what and like is also good for dumb users. I'm very
sorry
> of being against your oppinion, but I prefer a well configured environment
> that gives freedom to users, instead of a locked-everything-puter with no
> freedom to learn, inovate and comunicate.
>
>     Are you relative of Mr. Bush? ;o)))
>
>
> ---
>
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 05/08/03
>
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