As usual Wouter, well spoke.  Olin's replies, thou they can be harsh,=20
are hardly ever (I would go as far as to say as long as I've been =
reading
never) without some merit and/or information.  I wouldn't want him as a
phone level support person, hmm or maybe I would, might make the calls
really short from the customers.  But I do value his input into this
forum.

Jeremy

-----Original Message-----
From: Wouter van Ooijen [mailto:wouter@VOTI.NL]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 2:22 AM
To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: ]_Olins_Mental_Health


> I have not chosen to post to this list in the past due to a
> fear of the
> consequences of reacting to one of Olin's tirades which was
> aimed at me.

What's wrong with your delete button? (BTW, that is the same suggestion
which is often given to Olin!)

> I would then react and the list Admins would revoke my
> membership.

Only if you started a political flame or something equally
unappropriate.

> For whom does Olin Speak?

Olin. Eevery list member speaks for himself, and a few volunteering list
admins speak for the list.

> On occasion Olin attempts to speak for over 2000 list
> members.  I don't know
> how many have given him that right.  I, however, have not.

He does not speak for me, nor have I ever seen him attempt to do so. He
sort of tries to speaks for a 'silent moral majority', but I am always a
minority, so that does not include me :)

> What can be done?

Just post, ignore the responses you don't like. But be aware that Olin's
responses often contain good technical contributions, and when he has
already provided some (technical) point I won't repeat it lateron.

> I don't much care one way or the other, but either he's civil, or he's
> history.

I don't agree with his wording, but I often agree with his argument:
RTFM.

I would regard removing Olin (or any list member) because he (she)
voices his (technical!) ideas in a rough way a serious degradation of
this list. Note that I do approve removing of people who voice ideas
that don't belong to this list at all (like politics).

Wouter van Ooijen

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