Matt Redmond wrote 23:32 2003-08-13: >IMO it is a bit unfair to single out MS I thought so before. But it seems they insist on incorporating more features, and ship too early, than they can handle. Seems like they rely on other doing the security tests, and think bad publicity also is good publicity. Maybe it *is* that unfortunate as i more often hear of MS problems, than of other vendors solutions... I think WinNT systems are pretty good, but when installing other MS products into windows it is like installing virusloaders, not o mention incompatability and lock up in secret fileformats. Other vendors products does not by *far* have the same security issues as Microsofts office, mail and wwwbrowser applications, and swtitching to othe rbrands is nowadays easy, and most often cheper, better support, open documentation, can run on other OS (Linux, MAC, sometimes BeOS, OS/2 and more) Their behavoiur against numeral competitors as well as customer is sometimes disgusting, and i hate the fact i have bought several windows licenses, while only a small perentage of tha thave gone to deveoping th eproduct, but more to support their disgusting metods :( NO MORE! /Morgan -- Morgan Olsson, Kivik, Sweden -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu