> They also seem to be very fast at detecting new viruses > and putting out updated scanners when they have. > > Cheers, > > Howard Winter > St.Albans, England I disagree. The small network administration becomes a big pain. The users don't realize that Real Player, Lotteries, Auctions, Kazaa; Messenger, ICQ, URLs, etc destroy every single defense you put to protect the Intranet. The most efficient antiviral I found is a slow chat with the user, telling her/him: "the next thing you install with out my authorization, you are FIRED!",..."The next forbidden URL you *see*, with out consulting me, you are FIRED",... it works. (Although, I don't have such authority :)) I've noted that Live Update, like most upgradable softwares, do upgrade on Wednesdays. Well, the worms are generally lunched on Thursdays! So we solved the problem upgrading manually on Thursdays in the morning and on Fridays at noon. Since the users still on Windows 98, ME, etc, I made a batch to erase the content of \Temp, \Temp.internet files, win386.swp, all the cookies (The batch restore some), etc. I test the ports with *shields-up* from grc.com and run ad-aware from www.lavasoftusa.com I've noted, also, that free software comes with hide connections, like Real Player, Acrobat Reader, Babylon, etc. Licensed software like Windows, Office, and bunch more do the same or tell URLs if they are installed. I hate this traffic. Dennis. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body