Hi Richard, Are you really locked into those specific PICs for some reason? There are superior new PICs with the same footprint, Flash program memory, etc. at the same or lower prices... PIC16C620A vs. PIC16F627A - The F627A is in the same sub-family, but is a much newer Flash part. More of everything at essentially the same price. (Maybe less, depending on the clock speed and temperature range you need -- since the base 16F627A includes 20 MHz and industrial temperature ratings.) PIC16C505 vs. PIC16F630 - Again, The 16F630 is much better: Flash memory, mid-range 14-bit core vs. old 12-bit core, EEPROM, and a similar or slightly lower price. I believe that both can be programmed by the ICD2, but don't have the current list of supported devices in front of me at the moment. Randy www.glitchbuster.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Zinn" To: Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:08 PM Subject: [PIC]: PIC Programmer Preferences - which should I get? > I'm getting started in to a project where I will be using the PIC16C620A, > and the PIC16C505. I unfortunately purchased the Microchip PICDEM2 Plus and > the MPLAB ICD 2, but after further investigation I've found that the PICDEM2 > can't program either of those PICs. > > So far my search has lead me to either the: > - David Tate Serial programmer (free, but requires assembly) > http://www.ic-prog.com/upplow.gif, > - or the WARP-13 ($108) http://www.dontronics.com/newfound.html > > Any opinions? Or is there another better option I'm missing? > > Thanks. > Richard Zinn > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.