Jinx wrote: > ... It was MHO that an RA4 pullup was worth even the > merest of mentions in the basic manual... You must have free high-speed internet, The Lucky Jinx :-) It's not that easy to keep on downloading all these huge "new" revisions, wondering to death what's really has changed. Not to say about having to download start-up packet as little as, I'd suggest, about 100 MB to reveal that 95 MB of them seems to just duplicate each other, but you are never sure of that, perhaps there is some hidden difference, nobody knows. I need all the bloody docs to feel sure, product line is not enough. It would be great, if MChip set of docs was structured more or less intelligently. For example, If I needn't new revision of hints about pull-ups or advices on using MAX232 with PICs, or new revisions of what speed is optimal of waving a dead fish at a particular phase of moon to make PIC work faster, or new revisions of command set, why must I download it each time? Just a list of changes to find out which short doc file is current revision of, say, 18FXX20 electrical specs. Mike. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads