>> I don't want them to have any additional
>> programming hardware or technically complicated software.

>With those constraints I would recommend magic. Contact the unseen
>university at Ank Morpork.

Um....I downloaded the bootloader paper, and had the whole thing working in
about 3 hours of effort.  It wan't magic.  It didn't require programming
hardware or technically complicated software....

so...why did you find it necessary to try to make my question sound like a
stupid one?

- Ted


-----Original Message-----
From: Wouter van Ooijen [mailto:wouter@VOTI.NL]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:39 AM
To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: [PIC]:ICSP and downloadable firmware...


> I don't want them to have any additional
> programming hardware or technically complicated software.

With those constraints I would recommend magic. Contact the unseen
university at Ank Morpork.

You don't get something for nothing. Your options are:
- HVP, either with the support circuit within your application, or with
an external programming dongle
- LVP, idem, but the required support circuit can be very small (but it
costs you a pin, and some fuses bits can not be changed - only the LVP
bit?)
- self-programming / bootloader: the circuit can be very simple and/or
re-use existing communication hardware (or check my zero-pin
bootloader!), but now you need supporting software in your PIC.

Wouter van Ooijen

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