The A revisions of those chips have a much different programming algorithm than the older versions. Your programmer needs to know this, or it will fail. Josh -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Douglas Adams Eduardo Garcia wrote: > Please, anybody knows the diferences between PIC16F87X and PIC16F87XA? > I buy the new version (XA) and the ISP don't work fine. > I don't found in MICROCHIP application notes (39591a.pdf) detailed > information about it. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads