"Alan B. Pearce" wrote: > > >I recall that yahoo was thinking about removing the trailer for an > >annual fee, but have not heard of it since. Now that would be > >something worth contributing to! > > A Yahoo List I am on did this, IIRC it cost about US$100 per year. So if every subscriber contributed $1, the list would have no adverts. But what a PITA to organize/track. > On the whole the Yahoo lists seem to work well, but do tend to get hit by > the porn sellers of this world who subscribe to a whole heap of lists and > try and send mails. The moderators need to set it up so that a new member Yahoo limits new subscriptions to 5 per day. This has helped significantly. And you can't auto create a yahoo account (unless you have some wickedly good text image recognition software) to get around that limit. They -finally- seem to have their act together WRT spam. > needs to have their first message or two moderated before they can send > without the moderator being involved to stop heaps of these getting through. I plan on doing exactly that once (if) the bulk of you subscribe to piclistMIT. I have left subs opens to make it easy to transition to the new list. First spam changes the policy to closed, with a 1 week delay to get approved. This has worked well on my other lists since by the end of a week, the spammers account is nuked, and you can still read the archives to see what posts you missed. If James et al want moderator/owner privileges, then they can export/import addresses en mass. > The other problem is that it will not be possible (AFAIK) to have message > filtering like the MIT server does, so everyone will get everything, > irrespective of a desire to not have things like OT posts, which will turn > off a few members from joining it. I would welcome a correction on this. You just have to turn filtering on in your mail client. As long as everyone puts in OT:, EE:, etc. the user can filter out the posts that don't interest them. IMO, a small price to pay. A.B.P said >Another problem with yahoo is the pictures section only allows people to >view small thumbnails of pictures these days. The original poster of the >picture can still see it full size, but noone else. To allow people to see >the full sized picture it is better to put it in the files area. True. OTOH, you can pay Yahoo for a 'full' subscription, in which case you DO get to view the photos in full size. So how often has someone posted a photo here?? Not a problem AFAICT. And if the consensus is that people don't mind receiving large binaries, I can certainly enable attachments. M.P said: >I hate to say it, but Yahoo may be the best bet. I also wonder if our >bandwidth use might also be on the high side for a Yahoo group? One of the groups I moderate (QCUIAG) has 4000+ subs with 2500+ posts a month with a LOT of images (100K+). Hasn't been a problem so far. Yahoo does impose daily quotas on downloads from the group. If a particular section has reached it's quota (files for instance) you just have to come back some hours later to get in. Anyone posting warez will get banned, and a formal complaint to yahoo which will get you banned yahoo wide. Robert -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu