> (snip) For 8 pins, get the 12F675. Despite the name, this > is really a 16F part. Olin, when will you grasp the uChip 'logic' ;) (dominant rule fisrt) 12... == 8 pins 18... == 16-bit core 16... == all the rest (I donnu about 17...) And for cheap PICs: don't forget the 16F630/636, I think that's the cheapest source of I/O pins. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics