> In the past, several have mentioned a diff device that might be cheaper, Cheaper than WHAT? > etc......but I need it to work under ICD1 (not the hockey puck ICD2 unit). If this is a one off project why does it matter? If not, what is the expected volume? > So whats the better choice? Oh...app wise, its a slow controller, few > channels of A/D, maybe I2C, and otherwise around 18 I/O on it, running at > 3.3V Check out the 18F252. It has a lot of stuff in a 28 pin package. For hobby stock or any low volume use, it doesn't make sense to keep around lesser parts with the same pinout. Just buy a lot of these and use them for all 28 pin projects. For 40 pins, use the 18F452. For 18 pins get the 18F1320, but don't run it faster than 20MHz until Microchip fixes that bug. In the mean time, it's still more capable than the previous 18 pin standby, the 16F628. For 8 pins, get the 12F675. Despite the name, this is really a 16F part. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads