James keep up the good work
Most of us appreciate it
Takes me most of my spare time just to keep up with the list
But to handle all the admin too you deserve respect

Peter Cousens
cousens@biscit.biz

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> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
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> On Behalf Of James Newton, webhost
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:51 PM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [OT]: List sub problems
> Importance: High
>
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>
> "sponsor"? Where do you see advertisements? "put in place to help"?
Who
> gets
> paid for hours and hours of managing error messages from people with
crap
> like mail washer or just flaky email accounts? I would really like to
know
> where my check went. Josh? Dale? Herb? You holding out on me?
>
> The admins on this list are UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.
>
> What part of
> "Please supply your full name, as  in "SUBSCRIBE PICLIST Joe H.
Smith"."
> could you not BOTHER to read?
>
> How ungrateful can you possibly be?
>
> This a FREE list that has the BEST PIC professionals in the world on
it
> and
> who are willing to help you if you would just take the time to read
the
> FAQ,
> read the error messages, bother to try rather than demanding that we
just
> "make it work."
>
> How DARE you complain that I questioned the wisdom of your joining
this
> list
> when you couldn't bother to read one of the simplest messages you are
> likely
> to find? What chance is there that you will actually read what we
bother
> to
> write in response to your questions?
>
> It is attitudes like yours that really make me wonder about the basic
> humanity of people in business. You assume everything is something
that
> you
> are paying for (because YOU sure would NEVER give out anything for
free
> and
> can't understand that someone else might want to) and that therefore
you
> have the right to DEMAND service.
>
> Well you don't. Until you are either posting ANSWERS or contributing
in
> some
> way, you have NO RIGHT to complain about this list or WASTE OUR TIME
with
> your demands.
>
> I have the right to NOT service you, to kick you off the list, and to
> block
> every email address from your entire ISP if necessary if you waste any
> more
> of my time.
>
> If you don't like my work, why don't YOU volunteer to help out? It
will
> only
> take hours of reading the list manual, hours of learning the ropes,
hours
> of
> managing error messages, and hours of trying to control your temper
from
> jerks who can't imagine that other human beings might not have been
put on
> this earth to serve their needs.
>
> My wife is telling me I have to go back to college now (at 39) so I
can
> find
> a better job because I have been spending all my time doing things I
love
> (like running this list and the site) and it isn't paying the bills.
And
> you
> with your $2.7 million dollar a year company have the gall to tell ME
that
> I'M offending YOU?
>
> Sorry massa! Please don't whip me with that dollar bill!
>
> If you have all that money GO HIRE A CONSULTANT. This list is for
those of
> us who do it because we enjoy it. We aren't making $$$ because jerks
like
> you who can afford to PAY for help pretend to hobbyists and sucker us
into
> helping for nothing.
>
> At least some of the people who have been on this list for a while
> appreciate to some degree what it takes to keep it running and how
much it
> means to all the students, hobbyists and tetchiest who would not
otherwise
> have a free source of advice.
>
> Lookup "Noblesse Oblige" and think about it.
> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=noblesse%20oblige (notice the
> ads)
> or
> http://www.piclist.com/cgi-bin/wnsearch.exe?q=noblesse+oblige (notice
the
> LACK of ads)
>
> The people who really make this list valuable are listed at
> http://www.piclist.com/support and part of my "job" as I see it is to
> protect them from people like you who don't need them, won't bother to
> read
> what they take the time to say, and will not figure out your
obligation to
> the rest of the people in this world until it is too late.
>
> ---
> James Newton: PICList.com webmaster, former Admin #3
> mailto:jamesnewton@piclist.com  1-619-652-0593 phone
> http://www.piclist.com/member/JMN-EFP-786
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