I can't answer the "production programmer" question.  I suggest you contact
them.  Here's the link http://www.tech-tools.com/qwmain.htm

It seems to me the 16F876 takes about 10 or 15 seconds.  But for $200 bucks,
I suggest you get your own and time it.

Jay

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Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICSP with WARP-13a


Does the QuickWriter qualifies as a production programmer or is it for
development only ?

My understanding is that Microchip high end programmer (don't recall its
name) more strict verification of the programming while the PicStart and
most of the programmers mentioned on this list do not.

Also, how long does it take to program an 16F876 (8K) when you program
only a single unit with a new data file (that is, no data caching on the
programmer or similar tricks).

Thanks,

Tal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Jay Hanson
> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 7:11 PM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICSP with WARP-13a
>
>
> Yes, the quickwriter really is quick!  It's only a
> couple-a-hundred bucks. They could have charged $500 bucks
> for this baby and it would still be worth it.
>
> It takes a lot to impress me, but the quickwriter really
> does.  Here's the link http://www.tech-tools.com/qwmain.htm
>
> It's hard enough to get your own stuff to work without having
> to debug someone else's too.  I tossed my Warp in the trash.
>
> Jay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of > Tal
> Sent: Monday,
> July 14, 2003 3:56 PM
> To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICSP with WARP-13a
>
>
> Is the Quick Writer really quick (when programming a single
> chip, not in high volume/gang scenarios? The Warp 13 is
> pretty slow, probably because of the serial communication.
>
> It's time for a good USB programmer that accepts power from the bus.
>
> Tal
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pic microcontroller discussion list
> > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of Jay Hanson
> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:11 PM
> > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [PIC]: ICSP with WARP-13a
> >
> >
> > >I'm using a PIC16F819...the LVP pin is RB3, and the Warp-13a
> > docs state
> > >that that pin must be held low during programming.  Doing so
> > does not
> > >help at all.  I'm using the latest 4k/4MHz firmware.  I
> > can't seem to
> > >find anything on the website to suggest further "traps".
> > >
> > >Anyone have a similar experience that they've overcome?
> >
> > Yes, I bought a Quickwriter.  It works great.
> >
> > Jay

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