> BTW has any thing happened with Olin's programmer? Sounded very nice.

A few are being tested by PIClisters right now, although it's going slower
than I had hoped.  The real problem is the up front money for the first
production run, and that the low volume US production cost is higher than
we had expected.  The China cost is much lower, but then we need to come
up with money to build a lot of 500.

We'll probably build a small quantity here and sell at a higher price than
originally intended, then switch production to China if/when the volumes
go up.  Even at $60-70 sell price, it compares favorably to the Warp13.
For that price we provide the ZIF socket, power supply, and serial cable,
and works for the PIC 18, 28, and 40 pin pinouts.  It also verifies at
both Vdd limits, which I don't think the Warp13 does at all (?).


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